Unschooling Voices, etc.

Unschooling voices is up.

Tonight Andrea logged onto the chat program to say goodnight. Within a couple minutes, Emma also popped on. Yes, she’s 5 and has her own chat profile. So far as I know, I’m the only person she has chatted with. When I noticed her on, I sent her a ‘hello Emma’ and waited. A few minutes later she sent a full correctly spelled sentence telling me something that was important to her about her day. Before she was done she had sent me 3 or 4 more full sentences all spelled correctly.

Andrea told me after that she had asked for help with the spelling. You see, for quite a few months, she had been using her own version of phonetics to write things. But there were times when we misunderstood what she was writing. In the last month or so, she has changed her strategy by getting us to help her spell what she wants to write.

It’s come back to me again tonight how silly it is to set out to teach children a bunch of skills with the intention that once they have learned all of them they will be able to communicate. A child learns to talk because the child wants to communicate. When they are first learning to talk we don’t, “no, no, no you say that word this way and until you can say it that way we are not going to introduce the next word to you.” The secret to teaching a child to read, write and communicate is to accept the ability they currently have and understand that at some point their desire to understand and be understood will push them to develope those skills until they are every bit as proficient at them as the people around them. And for the abilities that they currently lack, compensate for them in the same way you do before they are potty trained, before they can dress themselves and before they can feed themselves.

Honestly, the only way I can imagine that someone seeking to understand child education could not see that is if they view the child as the object of education.

Reminder

This week is the deadline for Unschooling Voices.

Tonight I looked after a bunch of other stuff and hope to be catching up online tomorrow night. I have gotten to any of the comments left since Thursday night. Actually, this is the fiurst time (outside of work) that I’ve sat in front of a computer for more than a couple minutes since Thursday. A flu or virus is going throug hthe household. Yesterday was Meaghan’s day to feel like sleeping the entire day and it was Andrea today.

Call for submissions

Homeschool Country Fair

Between Carrie and Andrea I had an idea. Since non homeschooled kids are off to school over the next few weeks, this is often the time of year when HS parents get a barrage of questions/discussion with parties who haven’t given alot of thought to what they are asking/saying. I’m interested in doing a post of links to blog posts with answers to such questions. How does ‘homeschooling for dummies’ sound? If it strikes you as something fun and different, leave me a link in the comments. I’ll try to do the post on Sunday night.

Update: You can email me links at ron at atypicalhomeschool dot net. You can write something new or send me a links to posts you have already written. I had in mind the ‘subject for dummies’ series of books which approach the subject as though the reader starts out knowing nothing about it. That thought came to mind mostly because the 2 posts mentioned above reminded me of conversations I’ve had with people who could use a ‘homeschooling for dummies’ book. But, I’m not particularly stuck on that. If you would like to write something which is sarcastic or funny, please do. Although, my kids (and possibly others’) read this blog and if it’s not clean I won’t link to it.

Deadline? I plan on posting on Sunday night, so I would need the submission by early evening Sunday (eastern time).

A Day in Our Lives: Unschooling Voices #2

A Day in Our Lives: Unschooling Voices #2 is UP!

Unschooling and parenting

Unschooling Voices #2 (August issue) will soon be published. The optional August question is, “Do you extend the principles of unschooling (trust, freedom, etc) into any other areas of your child’s life?”. (Details on submitting blog posts) When I first saw the question, I thought to myself, “What a good question. I’d love to answer that.”

But when I had given it some thought (and I do have time to think about such things while driving to and from home on the weekends), I realized that, except in a tangental sense, I couldn’t answer it. In fact, given the way I approach most things that I do in life, it seems an odd sort of question. It occurred to me that a good illustration of my approach to life would be a discussion Andrea and I had a few years ago.

At the time, she was a member of an online moms forum which had a section set aside for attachment parenting. Over an extended period of time we had a fair number of conversations about threads on attachment parenting. Finally, because these discussions had piqued my curiousity, I asked her, “What’s attachment parenting?”

Her explanation started with, “What we do…”

You see, I’m not really the sort of person who reads up on various theories and methodologies and says, “Ah well, that’s a great theory/methodology.” And I really did not understand what unschooling was about and why it worked, etc. until I was already doing it. Realistically, in our early stages of unschooling, I would never have described us as unschoolers.

The reality is that unschooling does not extend into other areas of our children’s lives. Instead, through time, our parenting principles (trust, responsibility, maturity, etc.) inserted themselves into our educational strategy. No one will become responsible without responsibility being delegated to them. No one will become mature without the freedom to make choices. The inherent message in controlling, watching/supervising, evaluating and testing is that object of the control cannot be trusted, is immature and iresponsible. A child that always has to wait for an authority to tell it what he/she is supposed to do next cannot learn diligence. A very necessary component of diligence is initiative.

What I’ve said in the paragraph above was obvious to me for a long time before I recognized that what we were doing educationally was contrary to our overall parenting strategy. I don’t think it is particularly necessary for me to describe in minute detail what we were setting out to achieve as parents.

What I recognized several years ago was that the most valuable thing we had done toward that end had nothing to do with our choice in curriculum. We have given our children thousands of hours of free time that their publicly schooled counterparts were deprived of. We delegate things to them by which they learn responsibility. We trust them. There is nothing particularly complicated in terms of the principles of what we are doing. For us, unschooling is a means to an end rather than being an end in and of itself.

An unheard voice

A week ago Joanne posted Unschooling Voices #1. The question for the July edition was, “How did you and your family come to unschooling?” Because of the schedule I’ve been running, I didn’t have the opportunity to answer the question in time for the July edition. But I do think it is a question worth answering. Before I get to that…

The optional August question is, “Do you extend the principles of unschooling (trust, freedom, etc) into any other areas of your child’s life?”. (Details on submitting blog posts)

The simple explanation of how our family came to unschooling is that it was all a matter of time. But that doesn’t really say very much. TBH, I have known for years that there was a single moment at which I stepped onto the path that through many twists, turns and dead ends eventually lead to unschooling.

A little over 10 years ago, our oldest was in his third year of school. At the time, we were still somewhat following a school-at-home program. He was doing math that he had originally learned two years before. In the course of helping him with it, I came to the startling realization that even though he knew how to do the math, he had no idea as to why he was doing it beyond that was the way it was done. What I wanted to say next was some estimate of how long it took me to get over that. I spent about 5 minutes thinking about it. I have a sneaky suspicion that I haven’t gotten over it and that I probably never will. In any event, I spent the next week or two helping him understand why we borrow when we subtract.

I could write pages and pages describing hundreds of things that happened between then and now. I can summarize it somewhat tangentally. All of my teenage children are excellent at math because the only interest I had in teaching them was that they understood what it was for, what purpose it served and why it works the way it does. If you ask them a question that involves math it is unlikely that any of them will reach for a pencil in paper. They do math in their head. If you are wondering what approach we used in planning and adjusting over the years, the simple version would be that if it didn’t work, we threw it out. No preconceived idea/assumption or ‘proven method’ was exempt from the possibility that it was erroneous.

There are times, of course, when most of us second guess ourselves. But unschooling is not something about which I second guess. When you are standing on the side of the road in the dark and your child is tangled up in a bent up mountain bike describing the symptoms of his injuries, you don’t have alot of time to decide what is important. What you think about in the hours and days that follow define that for you. Speaking from experience, whether your child can list off the political leaders of your country through history is not important. Being able to compose a paper conforming to APA standards does not make or break a life (and is, in fact, worthless to you in a situation like that). Given the amount of the typical child’s life that is invested in school, I believe our society has a serious priority problem.

IMHO: Rote learning is worthless. Sitting a child at a desk and giving him or her a sheet of math questions to do which serves no purpose to the child beyond proving to you that that the child is capable (or demonstrating that in those circumstances he or she can’t or chooses not to) is a hideous offense to another life which is every bit as valuable as your own.

In refering to the accident above, I hope I haven’t suggested that prior to it we spent alot of time second guessing what we were doing because that wasn’t the case. There are things that come along in life which are gateposts from which there is no turning back.

(For readers who have joined since we started this blog, in the Fall of 2004, because of the glare of headlights from oncoming traffic, Addison hit a washout on the shoulder of the road, flipped his mountain bike and broke 4 vertabrae in his neck.)

Mixed Bag

I’ve been away from the keyboard since the 2nd Homeschool Country Fair was opened. I haven’t had a chance to read the posts yet. Given the hour, I won’t be doing that tonight.

The last few weeks have been subject to a number of changes in plans. The next 2 weeks will continue that tradition. I was planning on being away again most of this week. Last week, I arranged to convert to trips into one. Instead of leaving here on Wednesday as I did last week, I’ll be away from the keyboard all of next week. One of the advantages is that I will be able to stay home until Tuesday morning (Monday is a holiday in Canada) since home is about the same distance from Saint John and as my office.

This week I’m going to be working at getting the apartment set up. I am also going to be working on a solution to the problem of preventing spam blogs at homeschool journal. Andrea and I had time to sort out what we wanted to do to deal with that situation. As an interim solution, I am going to re-enable sign-ups by invitation only (i.e. an existing hsj user has to send an invite to the email address that is going to be used as the owner of the new blog).

TBH, I’m going to do my best to get some writing done here. I have a lot of things on draft in the back of my head. But, depending on how my week goes I may not get to anymore than 1 or 2. Also, there were more than 300 entries when I opened my bloglines tonight. I managed to read about 1/3 of the entries. It is probably going to take a couple nights for me to catch up.

2nd Homeschool Country Fair

Update: The Country Fair now has it’s own home. Details are posted there.

A request for submissions has been posted.

Details of the fair are available at the link above. In response to the comments on the previous 2 posts I would like to mention 2 important things about the country fair:

  1. Posts will be homeschooling related.
  2. The hosting blog owner reserves the right to accept or decline submitted posts. (In fact, I would encourage the hosting blog owner to read each of the posts and be conscious of what they are linking to before including the post.)

Standing Tall or Copping Out

Today there was an unamed and unlinked (at least here) carnival posted. At least one of the posts features in the carnival had objectionable content. One author who had also contributed a post to the carnival asked to have their post removed. The owner of the blog where the carnival was hosted contacted the coordinator of the carnival to get permission to remove the link from their own blog.

Other readers objected in the comments of the carnival to the link to the objectionable post. The owner of the blog where the carnival was posted replied in the comments:

I have no control over whose blog entries are in this Carnival

christine: That is a cop out. The terms of service of that blog service clearly state that the owner of the blog is responsible for the content. And, you agreed to those terms. You are responsible for every single letter and every single link. I realize that you did not write the other post and based on what else I see in your blog, you don’t agree with it. But you linked to it.

There is an appointed time for everything, and a time for every affair under the heavens.
A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to uproot the plant.
A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to tear down, and a time to build.
A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance.
A time to scatter stones, and a time to gather them; a time to embrace, and a time to be far from embraces.
A time to seek, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away.
A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to be silent, and a time to speak.
A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace..

Carnival of Unschooling #4

No, it’s not your imagination, we skipped last month. There just wasn’t enough entries. But now we have a pile, so let’s see who we can visit today.

Robin of Robin’s Blue Skies submitted her Two Roads Diverged entry, and it’s a good thing too as reading her blog, I’d have a hard time just picking one entry to highlight. At any rate, this entry examines how there is more than one way for children to learn those basic facts.

Over at Tricotmania, her daughter Tigger writes a guest entry about a experiment they came up with, checking core samples of snow. Thankfully the snow is all gone, but the experience remains.

Doc writes about goal setting verses scheduling, something that unschoolers really can do! It’s not chaos all the time, sometimes it’s controlled chaos. ;) We’re a big fan of to-do lists here as well. Sometimes kids need a litte encouraging, or a jumpstart, like examined here at Every Waking Hour. It’s not completely directionless, as these two posts help point out.

In this entry from Jeanne at Why Homeschool, one of the important points I think, is that it shows how she is willing to learn alongside the children, which is really the spirit of unschooling; that love of learning in the whole family.

If you really want to get into some of the meat of unschooling and taking your children seriously, then read Carlotta. Always a good read to get your brain cells working.

Ron had posed two questions here in a previous entry. When posed with the sentence, “Unschooling feels, sounds or appears like a good philosophy to follow, but ________ prevent me (or make me hesitant to) follow through with it.” we got some very interesting responses.

Christina laid it out simply: fear. Fear that when left to their own devices, kids would lay around all day and do nothing. Coincidentally, that same day I read her entry, I read something similar in the book Geurilla Learning on this very topic. The authors pose that the reason we are fearful of this happening is because if left to our own devices, we too would do nothing all day. But sometimes, it’s just what we need, time to recharge. And the mailing list behaviour Christina describes isn’t new to me, but saddening all the same. Like attachment parenting, unschooling isn’t a list of rules you have to follow. How ironic that some people make it so.

WJFR answered both, and in this question wonders how an organized person can unschool. Loads of interesting questions there.

Ron’s second sentence, “Unschooling my child(ren) has enabled me to see ________” brought in some really interesting responses as well.

Joanne at A Day in Our Lives laid it right out, and even changed the “has enabled” to “is enabling”, pointing out that it is a continuing and ongoing process.

Even more from Every Waking Hour, and again a stop at Carlotta’s.

There. Loads of new blogs to read if you aren’t reading them already. Also an important announcement: we’re looking for someone to take over the Carnival of Unschooling – whether independant or merged with one they are already running. If not, this will be the last one. A fun experiment while it lasted. :)

Note: The Carnival of Unschooling has move to Unschooling Voices.